A post with some massive generalisations

I once said I’d blog about this subject but somehow never got round to it.  Yep, it’s the whole ‘women at events’ topic.  Finally.

The niggle in the back of my mind was intensified last week when I saw the speaker list for the Government 2010 event and a couple of other local govt girl geeks (I hope they don’t mind the label!) @sharonodea and @sarahlay responded to my tweet of irritation in broad agreement.  In fairness to the organisers, they apparently tried to contact me to find female speakers but I never received the message.  Tech #fail, presumably.

The key point, I think, is that it’s not about women being better qualified to speak on the basis of their gender – no one wants the idiot quota to go up at events.  Rather, we want good quality speakers that reflect a diversity of opinion and it’s impossible to get that with only one demographic slice.  Women often have a different take on things (not better, not worse, just different) and I like to hear different perspectives.  The more demographically mixed an audience is, the better for challenge, difference of opinion, different cultural assumptions, and energy.  You can apply this issue to race, gender, sexuality, age, disability and social class (often missed out because it’s too thorny to contemplate).

Yuck, I hate sounding like some New Labour ‘social exclusion’ policy wonk and that’s why no one ever talks about this stuff apart from in passive-agressive tweets.  For now, I want to focus on women because, well, I am one and it’s better to focus on stuff you know about.

Part of me can’t be bothered to talk about the whys and wherefores of this business – surely it suffices to say that speaker panels, not to mention attendance, remain very white, middle class and male?  But trying to understand the problem (yes, problem) might help to figure out some solutions.  I see a few things:

  • There aren’t that many women who are well known in the government-tech-social-media-whateverwe’recallingit-industry
  • Women aren’t as good at self-promotion as men – i.e. we don’t put ourselves forward
  • The usual (mostly male) suspects are well-known and easy to contact for lazy event organisers
  • Women in this field are often do-ers, not pontificators
  • The people organising events are from the white, middle class, male demographic so it doesn’t occur to them that there is a problem
  • Women can be underconfident speakers

It would be a bit weird if there was just one solution to this situation, so I’m going to chuck out a few – I don’t even agree with all of them, but maybe a combination approach might make some headway:

  • If you’re a bloke organising an event, look at the speaker panel and attendee list.  Try and think of someone new to fill the spot who you haven’t heard speak recently.  Ideally a woman who you think has something useful to add.
  • Women-only speakers lists.  A bit controversial/radical, but might get some awareness/interest going (just out of curiosity I’d be interested to hear whether any women reading this have strong feelings for/against speaking at an event like this)
  • Meetups for women who are looking for tips on public speaking – maybe some practiced women speakers can give some coaching or advice
  • A place for events organisers looking for speakers to easily put a shout out for the kind of speaker they’re looking for, and to receive recommendations.  Plus, a place for women happy to speak if invited to put their profile and videos etc (is this a bit too centralised?)
  • If you’re a man (or a woman for that matter) already on a panel and you think it’s going to sound like an echo chamber, suggest a good speaker to the organisers
  • Some kind of organised approach to getting more women into the ‘industry’ – speaking to graduates at universities, working with the NGDP, NHS leadership development programme and civil service Fast Stream
  • A ‘plus one’ event, where you can only get in if you bring someone with you who’s new to these kind of events (ideally, but not necessarily, a woman)
  • Think about the timing of events – if you always have them early in the morning make them a bit later so people who take their kids to school (usually women) can make it too.
  • If you’re a woman, help other women out – big them up if they deserve it and cite them if they’ve made a good point.  We’re not in competition and we generally do better if we work together, just like the web taught us.

I’m sure there’s more that can be done and I’d love to hear more ideas.  If anyone wants to work together on any of the things that take a bit of organising (coaching/meetups for women, a speaker search/matching website) then give me a shout.

In the mean time, I thought I’d leave you with a list of women (linked to Twitter profiles) that I’ve heard speak convincingly at various events, either as keynotes or in smaller groups.  I have no idea if they’re looking for speaking opportunities or what their rates are, but I think it shows that there are plenty of women out there who have something to contribute:

Jasmine Ali
Liz Azyan
Hadley Beeman
Tessy Britton
Laura Bunt
Alex Butler
Jayne Hilditch
Katherine Hui
Ingrid Koehler
Martha Lane Fox
Sarah Lay
Adriana Lukas
Michelle Lyons
Anna Maybank
Anne McCrossan
Kate Monaghan
Emma Mulqueeny
Sharon O’Dea
Zuzanna Pasierbinska
Sophia Parker
Cassie Robinson
Deborah Szebeko
Denise Stephens
Merici Vinton

The women on the list cover a range of subjects and they’re not all government types, but that’s a feature, not a bug :)

If I’ve left you off the list it’s not even remotely personal – why don’t you stick your name in the comments if you’d be up for speaking at an event?  If I’ve put you on the list and you’re mortified then drop me a note and you’ll be removed.  If you know someone I’ve missed out then why not big them up in the comments?

I have a feeling someone else has done a list like this on their blog but I can’t for the life of me remember who it was – if it was you then please link to it in the comments as two lists are better than one!

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12 Responses to “A post with some massive generalisations”

  1. paul canning Says:

    Very useful post – which I shall now tweet!

    I was watching a vid about an unconference – something hyper-geeky – and it was talking about the benefits of good hosts. To get a panel together the good host made the audience stick up their hands when he asked ‘do you know about blah?’ and then he put that person on the panel.

    This is part of the value of trying for diversity because you get fresh ideas and fresh expertise. Corps know that diversity means you don’t miss out – and that’s what happens when you get the same old male faces.

    I noticed at the Government 2010 event that the sole woman facilitator was the best facilitator and I seem to recall a recent digital inclusion event, of some controversy, when the tweets were all about how good the two women speakers were compared to the rest …

    some more for the list:

    @JazCummins
    @Dr_Black
    @alisonvsmith
    @LSpurdle
    @KimberleyWillis
    @micheleidesmith
    @allyhook
    @Lizziesanderson
    @bridgetmck
    @missmass
    @EmmaMaier
    @charlottetwitts
    @RachAllen
    @webyogi
    @aliceainsworth
    @frangle
    @irislapinski
    @karenblakeman
    @evarley
    @CovalentCPM
    @LeonieWatson
    @gabysslave
    @lizmcwilliams
    @helenewilliams
    @HelenNicol
    @alteredeye
    @kazwccsocialnet
    @kcorrick
    @AnneFaulkner
    @Alheri
    @helenmilner
    @juliac2
    @lfeatherstone
    @racheljacksonn
    @Mari_Browne

  2. Sharon O'Dea Says:

    Great post, Carrie. There seems to be a different Gov 2.0 event on every day, yet they inevitably feature the same (white, male) faces.

    I like your ideas for getting a more diverse range of voices speaking at these events. I wonder if it’d be possible to combine points 2 & 3 in your list – like an unconference for women in tech/gov/comms/etc?

    An event like that might encourage women who haven’t got experience of speaking at larger events to give it a shot – hopefully helping to develop confidence as well as giving some female speakers a bit of profile so they aren’t overlooked in future.

  3. Arun Marsh Says:

    Our live webinar on effective comms featured at least 3 women including @SharonODea

  4. Sarah Lay Says:

    Thanks for posting this Carrie – a really interesting post and some great ideas of how to tackle the problem (and I agree, it is a problem).

    I had this conversation with Liz Azyan and Hadley Beeman at LocalGovCamp Lincoln too and we mentioned some of the ideas you’ve listed.

    Thanks for including me in your list and I don’t mind being labelled a local govt girl geek at all – in esteemed company there!

    Let’s find some ways of working on this to break free of the echo chamber and get some different voices heard.

  5. Robin Wilton Says:

    I have no hesitation in suggesting some more excellent speakers who just happen to be women (not necessarily Twitterers, though):

    Susan Landau (Sun Microsystems – Policy, R&D)
    Michelle Dennedy (Sun Microsystems – Policy, Privacy, Cloud Computing)
    Judith Rauhofer (University of Central Lancashire – Law, Digital Identity)
    Debbie Ashenden (Cranfield University – Identity, Privacy, Policy)

    I hope they don’t mind my posting without asking first… (ulp)

  6. Robin Wilton Says:

    Oops. For a start, I should have been more careful spelling Debi Ashenden’s name [sic].

  7. cyberdoyle Says:

    There were two women speakers at the COTS meeting at Hull earlier in the year. This was part colloquium (unconference) and part ordinary conference. The lady Lord Mayor opened the conference. Those three ladies all got round of applause. Their input was the best and the most interesting.
    just thought I would mention it.
    chris

  8. Sarah Lay Says:

    Another quick recommendation or two:

    @MMaryMcKenna and @JHarkin of Learning Pool (I’ve no affiliation with them but they’re passionate about what they do)

    Any more ideas on how we can approach this problem?

  9. Gov 2.0: 100+ Women in Government & Technology Says:

    [...] I published another list a few years back of top women in tech policy &/or politics on The Political Voices of Women blog, and there are a few cross-listed here, but the goal here was to take out the partisanship and just focus on ongoing efforts of women using technology to empower government and the public process. While I was researching, I did compile more names of women involved in Europe and Australia. That will have to be another list, but it was exciting to find even more amazing women, particularly through this post by Carrie Bishop. [...]

  10. Why are there so few women speakers at conferences « London Feminist Discussion Group Says:

    [...] in General | by Sharon O'Dea Carrie Bishop asks why we see the same people – men – speaking at conferences: …it’s not about women being better qualified to speak on the basis of their gender – no [...]

  11. carriebish Says:

    By way of an update, Catherine Howe has done a great Twitter list of women speakers: http://twitter.com/#!/curiousc/women-speakers-2-0/members

  12. Jackie Rafferty Says:

    You left someone out – have heard her and she was great – please add @carriebish and no I am not licking boots

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