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		<title>Comment on A post with some massive generalisations by Sarah Lay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Lay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another quick recommendation or two:

@MMaryMcKenna and @JHarkin of Learning Pool (I&#039;ve no affiliation with them but they&#039;re passionate about what they do)

Any more ideas on how we can approach this problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another quick recommendation or two:</p>
<p>@MMaryMcKenna and @JHarkin of Learning Pool (I&#8217;ve no affiliation with them but they&#8217;re passionate about what they do)</p>
<p>Any more ideas on how we can approach this problem?</p>
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		<title>Comment on A post with some massive generalisations by cyberdoyle</title>
		<link>http://carriebish.wordpress.com/2009/10/26/a-post-with-some-massive-generalisations/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>cyberdoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were two women speakers at the COTS meeting at Hull earlier in the year. This was part colloquium (unconference) and part ordinary conference. The lady Lord Mayor opened the conference. Those three ladies all got round of applause. Their input was the best and the most interesting. 
just thought I would mention it.
chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were two women speakers at the COTS meeting at Hull earlier in the year. This was part colloquium (unconference) and part ordinary conference. The lady Lord Mayor opened the conference. Those three ladies all got round of applause. Their input was the best and the most interesting.<br />
just thought I would mention it.<br />
chris</p>
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		<title>Comment on A post with some massive generalisations by Robin Wilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Wilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. For a start, I should have been more careful spelling Debi Ashenden&#039;s name [sic].</description>
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		<title>Comment on A post with some massive generalisations by Robin Wilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Wilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no hesitation in suggesting some more excellent speakers who just happen to be women (not necessarily Twitterers, though):

Susan Landau (Sun Microsystems -  Policy, R&amp;D)
Michelle Dennedy (Sun Microsystems - Policy, Privacy, Cloud Computing)
Judith Rauhofer (University of Central Lancashire - Law, Digital Identity)
Debbie Ashenden (Cranfield University - Identity, Privacy, Policy)

I hope they don&#039;t mind my posting without asking first... (ulp)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no hesitation in suggesting some more excellent speakers who just happen to be women (not necessarily Twitterers, though):</p>
<p>Susan Landau (Sun Microsystems &#8211;  Policy, R&amp;D)<br />
Michelle Dennedy (Sun Microsystems &#8211; Policy, Privacy, Cloud Computing)<br />
Judith Rauhofer (University of Central Lancashire &#8211; Law, Digital Identity)<br />
Debbie Ashenden (Cranfield University &#8211; Identity, Privacy, Policy)</p>
<p>I hope they don&#8217;t mind my posting without asking first&#8230; (ulp)</p>
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		<title>Comment on A post with some massive generalisations by Sarah Lay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Lay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this Carrie - a really interesting post and some great ideas of how to tackle the problem (and I agree, it is a problem).

I had this conversation with Liz Azyan and Hadley Beeman at LocalGovCamp Lincoln too and we mentioned some of the ideas you&#039;ve listed.

Thanks for including me in your list and I don&#039;t mind being labelled a local govt girl geek at all - in esteemed company there!

Let&#039;s find some ways of working on this to break free of the echo chamber and get some different voices heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this Carrie &#8211; a really interesting post and some great ideas of how to tackle the problem (and I agree, it is a problem).</p>
<p>I had this conversation with Liz Azyan and Hadley Beeman at LocalGovCamp Lincoln too and we mentioned some of the ideas you&#8217;ve listed.</p>
<p>Thanks for including me in your list and I don&#8217;t mind being labelled a local govt girl geek at all &#8211; in esteemed company there!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s find some ways of working on this to break free of the echo chamber and get some different voices heard.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A post with some massive generalisations by Arun Marsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arun Marsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our live webinar on effective comms  featured at least  3 women including @SharonODea</description>
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		<title>Comment on A post with some massive generalisations by Sharon O&#39;Dea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon O&#39;Dea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Carrie. There seems to be a different Gov 2.0 event on every day, yet they inevitably feature the same (white, male) faces.

I like your ideas for getting a more diverse range of voices speaking at these events. I wonder if it&#039;d be possible to combine points 2 &amp; 3 in your list - like an unconference for women in tech/gov/comms/etc?

An event like that might encourage women who haven&#039;t got experience of speaking at larger events to give it a shot - hopefully helping to develop confidence as well as giving some female speakers a bit of profile so they aren&#039;t overlooked in future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Carrie. There seems to be a different Gov 2.0 event on every day, yet they inevitably feature the same (white, male) faces.</p>
<p>I like your ideas for getting a more diverse range of voices speaking at these events. I wonder if it&#8217;d be possible to combine points 2 &amp; 3 in your list &#8211; like an unconference for women in tech/gov/comms/etc?</p>
<p>An event like that might encourage women who haven&#8217;t got experience of speaking at larger events to give it a shot &#8211; hopefully helping to develop confidence as well as giving some female speakers a bit of profile so they aren&#8217;t overlooked in future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A post with some massive generalisations by paul canning</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul canning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very useful post - which I shall now tweet!

I was watching a vid about an unconference - something hyper-geeky - and it was talking about the benefits of good hosts. To get a panel together the good host made the audience stick up their hands when he asked &#039;do you know about blah?&#039; and then he put that person on the panel.

This is part of the value of trying for diversity because you get fresh ideas and fresh expertise. Corps know that diversity means you don&#039;t miss out - and that&#039;s what happens when you get the same old male faces.

I noticed at the Government 2010 event that the sole woman facilitator was the best facilitator and I seem to recall a recent digital inclusion event, of some controversy, when the tweets were all about how good the two women speakers were compared to the rest ...

some more for the list:

@JazCummins 
@Dr_Black 
@alisonvsmith
@LSpurdle 
@KimberleyWillis
@micheleidesmith
@allyhook 
@Lizziesanderson 
@bridgetmck 
@missmass
@EmmaMaier 
@charlottetwitts
@RachAllen
@webyogi 
@aliceainsworth 
@frangle 
@irislapinski 
@karenblakeman
@evarley 
@CovalentCPM 
@LeonieWatson
@gabysslave 
@lizmcwilliams 
@helenewilliams 
@HelenNicol
@alteredeye
@kazwccsocialnet 
@kcorrick 
@AnneFaulkner
@Alheri 
@helenmilner 
@juliac2 
@lfeatherstone 
@racheljacksonn 
@Mari_Browne</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very useful post &#8211; which I shall now tweet!</p>
<p>I was watching a vid about an unconference &#8211; something hyper-geeky &#8211; and it was talking about the benefits of good hosts. To get a panel together the good host made the audience stick up their hands when he asked &#8216;do you know about blah?&#8217; and then he put that person on the panel.</p>
<p>This is part of the value of trying for diversity because you get fresh ideas and fresh expertise. Corps know that diversity means you don&#8217;t miss out &#8211; and that&#8217;s what happens when you get the same old male faces.</p>
<p>I noticed at the Government 2010 event that the sole woman facilitator was the best facilitator and I seem to recall a recent digital inclusion event, of some controversy, when the tweets were all about how good the two women speakers were compared to the rest &#8230;</p>
<p>some more for the list:</p>
<p>@JazCummins<br />
@Dr_Black<br />
@alisonvsmith<br />
@LSpurdle<br />
@KimberleyWillis<br />
@micheleidesmith<br />
@allyhook<br />
@Lizziesanderson<br />
@bridgetmck<br />
@missmass<br />
@EmmaMaier<br />
@charlottetwitts<br />
@RachAllen<br />
@webyogi<br />
@aliceainsworth<br />
@frangle<br />
@irislapinski<br />
@karenblakeman<br />
@evarley<br />
@CovalentCPM<br />
@LeonieWatson<br />
@gabysslave<br />
@lizmcwilliams<br />
@helenewilliams<br />
@HelenNicol<br />
@alteredeye<br />
@kazwccsocialnet<br />
@kcorrick<br />
@AnneFaulkner<br />
@Alheri<br />
@helenmilner<br />
@juliac2<br />
@lfeatherstone<br />
@racheljacksonn<br />
@Mari_Browne</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tell Us Once goes national by links for 2009-10-02 &#171; Ing&#39;s Links</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2009-10-02 &#171; Ing&#39;s Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tell Us Once goes national « News from a Nerd Carrie Bishop&#039;s views on Tell Us Once, nice idea, serious caveats (tags: data opengovernment VRM carrie+bishop tellusonce customerexperience) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tell Us Once goes national « News from a Nerd Carrie Bishop&#39;s views on Tell Us Once, nice idea, serious caveats (tags: data opengovernment VRM carrie+bishop tellusonce customerexperience) [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tell Us Once goes national by carriebish</title>
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		<dc:creator>carriebish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment theconnectedrepublic.

Tell Us Once is the government&#039;s answer to its own bureaucracy.  Even the government thinks it&#039;s too bureaucratic to tell them the same information over and over.  

What I&#039;m suggesting is that the way in which we simplify that bureaucracy can either happen by glossing over it (i.e. Tell Us Once) or we can decide to reorganise things around individuals (or even let individuals organise things themselves) so that bureaucracy is lessened but the individual retains control of their data and there&#039;s less scope for the government to abuse it, intentionally or otherwise.

Having worked in the public sector for several years I fully understand the complexities which are not very different from other large organisations as you point out.  My aspirations for government may not &#039;seem very realistic&#039; to you but fortunately I have ambition for the sector and will carry on hoping for the best :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment theconnectedrepublic.</p>
<p>Tell Us Once is the government&#8217;s answer to its own bureaucracy.  Even the government thinks it&#8217;s too bureaucratic to tell them the same information over and over.  </p>
<p>What I&#8217;m suggesting is that the way in which we simplify that bureaucracy can either happen by glossing over it (i.e. Tell Us Once) or we can decide to reorganise things around individuals (or even let individuals organise things themselves) so that bureaucracy is lessened but the individual retains control of their data and there&#8217;s less scope for the government to abuse it, intentionally or otherwise.</p>
<p>Having worked in the public sector for several years I fully understand the complexities which are not very different from other large organisations as you point out.  My aspirations for government may not &#8217;seem very realistic&#8217; to you but fortunately I have ambition for the sector and will carry on hoping for the best <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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